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05 January 2006 @ 06:30 pm
another kitchen question - ovens  
Any opinions on how much better chest height ovens are than below counter? We were thinking of getting one, but as I play around with kitchen plans, there seems to be only two sensible places to put one, and each has disadvantages. So maybe we should go for below counter?

And any opinions on having oven next to fridge? I imagine it would have an effect on the fridge's efficiency, but I don't know how much. Or is there sooper dooper insulation now that means it's all ok?

Yeah, I don't have to know where the oven & fridge go yet, but it could affect sink location.
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wyvernfriendwyvernfriend on January 5th, 2006 06:44 pm (UTC)
Chest High ovens can often have saucepans and baking stuff in drawers underneath that are designed for such and can be a great thing and handy if you plan to cook heavyish stuff like roasts because you don't have to bend to put them in or take them out.

Mum has her cooker next to her fridge and it hasn't effected things every EXCEPT for the nasty layer of grease on the fridge and the scratches on the side of the fridge.
a very caring potatomollydot on January 6th, 2006 01:09 pm (UTC)
My mum has too. She says it's affected the fridge, but I don't know how she knows.
SirRoysirroy on January 5th, 2006 07:06 pm (UTC)
We put ours under the counter to preserve the lines in our new kitchen. Mainly due to LadyRoy's bad back she now desperately wants to get an eye level one. I can her point having wrestled with a turkey from ground level. They're nice, but not practical.

As to fridges beside cookers, I don't think it's a good idea on any level. At least put something like narrow shelves between them. Part of it is heat and insulation, partly you just need elbow room either side of a cooker.

And you will probably want one of the big American style fridges that are all the rage with the young people now, with the ice and chilled drink dispensers.
Doriandorianegray on January 5th, 2006 08:41 pm (UTC)
I'd advise against an American-style fridge if by that you mean the side-by-side fridge-freezer variety; we looked at them when buying our new fridge, and they're really narrow. You wouldn't get anything bigger than a 12" pizza into the freezer.

But big, and with water dispenser in the door, yes, definitely!
a very caring potato: broken icemollydot on January 6th, 2006 01:06 pm (UTC)
We're thinking freezer in the utility, so are unlikey to go for a fridge-freezer. I like the idea of ice & water dispenser though! Would the fridge need to be plumbed for that or do you refill them?

In our last place we had a full height fridge with a small freezer at the top - bigger than yer typical ice box and a higher rating. I'd like to get something like that. Haven't discussed it with himself. I'd use the small freezer for frequently used things like frozen peas, with longer term storage in the utility.
davidg666 on January 6th, 2006 01:36 pm (UTC)
I think those fridges with water dispensers are typically plumbed in; no refilling. I like those, but I'd echo the previous remarks about the narrowness of the side-by-side fridges; just get the biggest normal fridge (with water dispenser) that you can both fit in and afford!
Doriandorianegray on January 6th, 2006 07:07 pm (UTC)
Our fridge has basically a "tank" (holds maybe 4 litres) in the door, which you have to fill/refill. You can either take it out and fill it under the tap (gets rather heavy!) or just take jugs of water to the fridge and fill it that way (tedious if you don't have a large jug). The ice-maker is in the freezer and you have to open the door to get at it (you can fill your glass with cold water without having to open the fridge), but we haven't used it yet (after a year and a half!) because we still have (filled, frozen) ice-bags left from before.

The machine is a Samsung, by the way.

The fridge we replaced with this monster was the kind of thing you're talking about, with a small freezer on top; I think it was a Bosch, but it was very elderly.
a very caring potato: broken icemollydot on January 6th, 2006 09:48 pm (UTC)
Heh, I googled fridge with water dispenser earlier and the ones I looked at were Samsung. They've some nice looking stuff.
a very caring potatomollydot on January 6th, 2006 01:08 pm (UTC)
"All the young people" = lizmopuddy?

Thanks for the advice.
SirRoysirroy on January 6th, 2006 02:02 pm (UTC)
And her!
Niall Richard Murphyniallm on January 5th, 2006 09:33 pm (UTC)
Hot ovens down low aren't a good combination with children.
a very caring potatomollydot on January 6th, 2006 01:07 pm (UTC)
Good point.

We'd better re-think the ankle-level spinning blades too.
Niall Richard Murphyniallm on January 6th, 2006 02:10 pm (UTC)
Prince of Persia: Visit to the Fridge for some Milk and Jet Set Willy in A&E Crisis at St. James' are not among the games I would like to see progeny play :)
a very caring potato: roflmollydot on January 6th, 2006 02:13 pm (UTC)
Must not burst out laughing in work.
davidg666 on January 6th, 2006 01:39 pm (UTC)
I like the idea of a chest-high oven from the point of view of access to it (and you don't get a blast of hot steamy air in the face when you open the door, like with a low down oven) but I think you do need it to fit in well with the space, since I think it could probably be very visually dominating (as well as eating ~600mm of horizontal counter space (chomp))
a very caring potatomollydot on January 6th, 2006 02:17 pm (UTC)
I've have this urge to eat a counter now.

I reckon we'll have enough space that we don't need to worry about losing 600mm, but I am worried about breaking it up, and losing a lot more usable space.
(Anonymous) on January 11th, 2006 08:53 pm (UTC)
Talking about fridges - we went for a tall, non american one with about 1/3 freezer bit on the bottom 'cause we use the top bit every day and rarely use the bottom bit except for ice cream and ice cubes and emergency frozen dinners for those evenings when the trains go pear shaped.

The American ones were cool but were expensive, all sucked too much juice and took up too much room for our liking. However they do rock when it comes to parties and ice cubes :-)

As for ovens - I have a huge cast iron pot that I use for casseroles ... and an under counter oven, enough said, will think twice the next time.

a very caring potatomollydot on January 12th, 2006 10:14 am (UTC)
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