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07 November 2008 @ 11:41 pm
my twittering (broadband, Out of the Silent Planet)  
  • 10:20 Any (Dublin) ISP advice? Phone lines won't be connected for 3 weeks (at least). Wait for that, or are there any good wireless options? #
  • 10:28 Timely. I've just opened bumpf from Chorus ntl & they do broadband without TV. Are they any good? Was hard to stop ntl bills in the past. #
  • 15:21 Finished CS Lewis's Out of the Silent Planet. Pretty good for ancient sci fi. I like the conceit of the letter in the postscript. #
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SirRoysirroy on November 8th, 2008 09:39 am (UTC)
I use O2 usb mobile on the leptop. Quite good out here in the boonies but absolutely electric when we are in the City. I think it costs about 38 euro a month for unlimited downloads.
a very caring potatomollydot on November 8th, 2008 09:57 am (UTC)
So it'd probably be shite for us? It'd be nice to be able to bring it between the 2 homes though.
SirRoysirroy on November 8th, 2008 10:01 am (UTC)
As long as your mobile phone works you'll get coverage.
davidg666 on November 8th, 2008 10:51 am (UTC)
…but only fast coverage as long as your mobile has a 3G signal, otherwise you're down to GPRS speeds — around 200..300kbps at best, often around 50kbps (analogue modem speeds :( )
a very caring potatomollydot on November 8th, 2008 11:09 am (UTC)
i've got a 3G signal right now (in the bedroom), so that's a good sign!
davidg666 on November 8th, 2008 02:12 pm (UTC)
Forgot to mention that having a 3G signal doesn't also imply that a HSDPA data connection is available; my phone shows a different indicator for 3G than it does for HSDPA — although most of the time it just shows the H for HSDPA and I rarely see the plain 3G indicator.

I'm not sure what the native 3G data speed is, but I'm sure it's better than GPRS anyway...

All of that said, I often find that even when the phone think O2 is making a HSDPA connection available, the connection doesn't actually work, which doesn't impress me at all.
a very caring potato: boobiesmollydot on November 10th, 2008 10:44 pm (UTC)
i've just copped now that electric probably means fast. For some reason I took it to be slang for bad!
davidg666 on November 8th, 2008 10:57 am (UTC)
two remarks too:

  1. We tried all three 3G+GPRS options from Three, O2 and Vodafone in a broadband black hole in north Wicklow, but thankfully they all had a 14-day money-back offer. We occasionally got a slow GPRS connection, never a 3G connection. I believe they're much better in urban areas where the signal's better, of course. Other thing about HSDPA (fast 3G data) is that the claimed 3.6Mbps maximum speed is theoretical and based on the assumption that nobody else is using the same mobile base station as you.

  2. I have UPC/ntl's 20Mbps cable broadband service and, although I have had plenty of reason to hate ntl in the past (if you have to try to talk to them on the phone, you're doooooomed) it's only dropped out once (for an hour or so) in the three months I've had it, and the installer not only came half an hour earlier than he said he would, but he also telephoned the day before to confirm the installation. Only things are you only approach the 20Mbps speeds in the morning, when other users are probably asleep - it drops to around 6Mbps in the evenings when things are busy, and the installers didn't have a clue about how to configure wireless networking on OS X.

a very caring potato: persistence - cat on wiremollydot on November 8th, 2008 11:17 am (UTC)
i didn't expect you to be able to use it in your black hole, but it might work in our new build. I'll check if the 3G icon comes up today. Mobile reception is pretty bad in the nearby in-laws, but I don't know how much of that is due to thick walls.

2. That sounds great! We were constantly getting drops in the last place. Drove nuteile up the wall when he was trying to play Doom, or Quake, or whatever it was, online. 6Mbps would be plenty.

3. Have you any interest in astronomy? We're going into an astronomy day exhibition in the Science Museum in Trinity in a little while. Free entry, lectures extra.
davidg666 on November 8th, 2008 02:19 pm (UTC)
2. Yea, right at this moment (about 1418 on Saturday) http://www.irishisptest.com/runmyspeed.php is claiming 4Mbps for me, so it does vary a lot. I wonder that the real speed their "10Mbps" and slower products actually get.

3. Yes! Although I see you wrote that about three hours ago — am I too late?
ext_112271 on November 11th, 2008 07:10 pm (UTC)
I have NTL 6Mb/s. Reliability is fine. Speed is fine. I'm not a gamer so I don't worry about latency but I use Skype for phone calls all the time and that works great.
a very caring potatomollydot on November 12th, 2008 10:46 am (UTC)
good to hear, esp as we signed up yesterday. Should get it installed next week. We chose 10Mbps. There wasn't a 6Mbps option. (3, 10 or 20)

In our previous place, at times it was dropping enough that even just browsing the web was a pain.
ext_112271 on November 21st, 2008 08:00 pm (UTC)
Well now I've no idea what speed I'm supposed to be on. I used to be on 3Mbps until NTL upgraded my modem and gave me 6Mbps for no extra charge (earlier this year). I'm paying for Broadband Express which I see on the website is now 10Mbps But that Irish ISP Test just rated me at 3.2Mbps!

So, who knows?! Fast enough anyway :-)
a very caring potato: persistence - cat on wiremollydot on November 27th, 2008 11:23 am (UTC)
As you probably saw above, my other stalker, paying for 20, often gets 6Mbps.

And you've possibly seen my later post saying that I can't get ntl here anyway. Stupid people. *sulk*
 dudi killimengrikillimengri on November 12th, 2008 11:55 am (UTC)
Are you going on to read Perelandra & the 3rd book in the series whose title I've completely forgotten? I have Vodafone, but it's only 53.6Kbps ~ bad, bad, bad, but far better than IFA's 14.4Kbps & eircom's 0Kbps!
a very caring potatomollydot on November 13th, 2008 09:22 am (UTC)
yep, I have all three borrowed.

You need to move to civilisation!