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11 September 2006 @ 01:00 pm
Chinese: tired & thirsty  
Haven't learnt any Chinese for ages, but I got two words today

Wo lei le - i'm tired
Wo ke le - i'm thirsty

And I am very tired. I shouldn't have had the massage - I can hardly keep my eyes open now.

I don't know the hanxi or the tones. I'll try & find them later.

The first one almost sounds like an Eric Clapton song - Woh Layla.
Current Location: nearly asleep at my desk
Current Mood: exhaustedWo hen lei le
oddcellist on September 22nd, 2006 08:09 pm (UTC)
Here off - well, a bunch of people, but glitzfrau is the one I've known the longest. I really, really like your cards - I wish I took the time to make and send cards.

In any case:


ke is third tone, lei in the sense of tired is fourth. I personally would say kou-ke, but that might just be me being weird, and because i am in germany and my parents are in china, I can't ask them...
a very caring potato: wings and wordsmollydot on September 27th, 2006 03:56 pm (UTC)
Hello! Of the friendslist in common, I know niallm the longest - half my life. I know glitzfrau and radegund through him.

Thank you for both the card comment and the Chinese. I can't remember now if she told me more than one way of saying thirsty. Sometimes she tells me more than one way of saying things and I just try to remember the easiest, rather than the best. Like there's a better word she told me for "very", but I find "hen" easier to say, never mind remember.

I started making the cards around this time last year. I just started off making one, rather than thinking they all had to be handmade. You don't need many supplies to get started, though amassing stuff can be addictive. I'm getting into the habit of listing what I used in the flickr descriptions, so that people can make them if they want.
oddcellist on September 27th, 2006 09:19 pm (UTC)
Ah so! As for the Chinese, the way I get around not having my parents around (or even a dictionary, sadly) is by using www.zhongwen.com - useful for me really only if I have both pinyin and patience, since I find it hard to look things up by stroke-count online (for some reason, print versions are easier on my eyes, even if the characters aren't all that much bigger or clearer).

As far as remembering alternate expressions goes - boy, do I sympathize. I don't speak natively, having picked up only once I was seven - so I'm pretty good, but I can't make idiomatic judgments (and occasionally pull out things that make my parents go, "huh?") For what it's worth, I'd be hard-pressed to come up with a different "very," too. Cool that you're learning, though - ordinarily I'm not all that excited about Chinese, but when people tell me they're learning it for some reason it gets me excited.
oddcellist on September 27th, 2006 09:20 pm (UTC)
To clarify: I totally meant to type "I'm pretty good for normal conversation," not to make a blanket statement about how good my Chinese is, because it isn't.
a very caring potatomollydot on September 30th, 2006 11:41 am (UTC)
Oh wow, that looks complex. And familiar... perhaps I came across it in the past when looking for Japanese stuff.

Are your parents Chinese? I take it from your profile that you're from the US, not Germany?

I think the other very began with a "sh" sound and had at least two syllables.
oddcellist on September 30th, 2006 01:15 pm (UTC)
Hmm... today is a better day, but all I'm coming up with despite is te4 bie2 (zhongwen.com will tell you that means "special," which I guess explains why I feel like it's also - to be similar to "very," it would mean something like "especially."

Yeah, my parents are Chinese - they and my oldest sister were born Over There, which I guess makes me - what, second-generation? I can't count, but I guess that's how it's done. I'm here for a year to study - although sometimes I wonder what it is, exactly, I'm studying here...

As for other matters, I'm sorry the weather didn't cooperate today.
a very caring potatomollydot on October 3rd, 2006 10:59 am (UTC)
I get confused too - I don't know whether you're second or first generation. A different generation to your sister, technically, I suppose.
I'm umpteenth generation Irish :-)

What are you studying, if it's not too difficult a question!

I suppose the BBQ can be put away now and have its inaugrual burning next year. Oh well! At least we got some use out of the new garden chairs during the 10 minutes of sun.
oddcellist on October 5th, 2006 09:20 am (UTC)
Ah, well, in principle (my new favorite hedge phrase) it's not all that complicated - at my home university Aardvark, I'm doing a double major in linguistics and classics (Greek, since I have to pass my generals and they're nervous that we won't if we do both classical languages plus a subsidiary major, since the subsidiary major usually takes up the same amount of coursework in our schedule as one classical language... yeah.) As for here - answer is a bit more complicated, but since I sent off my emails yesterday the responses have been encouraging, so it looks like I'll be doing some mix of Sanskirt, Greek, and Sanskrit-related historical linguistics (mmm... tasty.) Officially I'm registered as a direct exchange student in Greek philology, Historical and Comparative Linguistics, and Indian philology, if that helps at all.

Mmm, ten minutes of sun would be nice about now. Fall has hit with a vengeance and it is proving harder than normal to, you know, get up in the mornings.
a very caring potato: Englishmollydot on October 17th, 2006 02:07 pm (UTC)
Oh wow, sounds interesting. And here was me thinking it would be something to do with German :-)
oddcellist on October 17th, 2006 02:20 pm (UTC)
Ah, yes - that's the first reaction of most people here, actually. Either that, or "Why on Earth would you want to learn German?" which I guess I sort of get, except, no - because there's lots of cool stuff there, it just happens not to be the cool stuff that I'm concerned with.

I had my first day of classes today. It was tasty.
a very caring potato: fruit pacmanmollydot on October 17th, 2006 02:41 pm (UTC)
nyomnyomnyom - *eats classes*